Zweizz - Interview With Zweizz
par Powaviolenza › jeudi 12 juillet 2007
01. Hail Svein Egil! What's up? What are you doing musically theses days?
This weekend I'm playing a Homo Vinter & Zweizz concert at a festival in Oslo called Happy Days, a sort of contemporary art music festival that takes place in a shopping mall downtown called "Oslo City". The sad thing is, though, that I have been hired to play at the party that closes the entire festival, and this party is not in the shopping mall. But I guess it'll be a good gig anyway. Also I'm about to finish a couple of releases: A 7" with the band Umoral, a 7" with Fleurety and an album with Pronounced "Sex".
02. Well, let's make a retrospective of your musical projects, starting of Fleurety. How did you met Alexander Nordgaren?
We went to school together, so Alex and I have known each other since we were about ten years old. We used to play in the same football/soccer team when we were kids, and when we both got to the stage where we would actually become conscious human beings, we both dropped out of that football team and hung out, and in 1991 we formed a band together.
03. Since the first demo to "Department", Fleurety wasn't an "easy" project. How did the "Black Snow" demo was received by the scene? Did it evolved a lot with time?
Ever since I first got into black metal, I've had the idea that a band should be original and challenging. My entrance into black metal was through the shop Helvete, where Euronymous used to stand behind the counter. He was into all sorts of music, and was a big enthusiast about new bands that had ideas of their own. The reason why he and many others were so pissed off with death metal at that time was that a lot of bands sounded the same; American bands all had a Morrisound production, and Swedish bands all had the typical Sunlight production. Euronymous became a kind of role model for how I'd started to think about what black metal should be: If you don't do something unuque, you might as well quit playing. And that has been the philosophy all along with Fleurety. The "Black Snow" demo sold about 500 copies, if I don't remember incorrectly. Some people didn't like the vocals, and other people thought we were "fake black metal", but that's changed a lot since then. At a point in time it seemed we were kinda unpopular, but that's more than ten years down the line. We actually recorded a song off our first demo anew, and this time we have Hellhammer playing the drums and Necrobutcher playing the bass. So we seem to be down with the scene these days. In the autumn we are going to release a 7" with two re-recorded songs. One was originally released in 1993, and the other was released in 1995. We have another new song as well, that we recorded on an old four tracker, just the same technology as we used on our first demo. This song is called "The Animal of the City", and is actually the most primitive song we ever made.
04. In a recent mail, Nordgaren told me that a new album is on the starting-blocks. What can we expect from this new future jewel?
I think the plan is to make a really old sounding black metal album, but I'm not sure how it will turn out. No songs have been made yet, so it's hard to tell what it will sound like. Alex is living in Rumania these days, so we might record something there. That would be cool, I guess. The next step after that, not the next album, but the album after that, will be an insane avant garde epos, of course, as usual.
05. Seems that you played live - saw a picture of Carl Michael playing bass for Fleurety on Nordgaren's profile... Can you tell me about this?
We played a couple of concerts in the area where we grew up, in Enebakk, 30 kilometres south of Oslo. I think we did one concert with Carl Michael on bass and Vicotnik on guitar in addition to the usual line up. That was in a local sports arena, and I think it was in 1995 or 1996. I can't really remember. We played some stuff from the "Min Tid Skal Komme" album, two or three songs perhaps.
06. Let's speak of your another big project theses days, Zweizz. The album is out soon on Vendlus, and it kills. What expectations do you have for "The Yawn Of A New Age"?
My expectations are that some people are gonna like it, but I don't know how many. It's not the easiest kind of music to get into, and I'm not sure if I know how I picture the people who are gonna buy it. I also expect it to cause some debate, but I'm not sure what kind of debate that might be. I've bent the rules of black metal as far as i know how, and I guess that some people won't think it's metal at all. And that might be right, but black metal has never been that musc about metal as far as I've been able to understand. Black metal is more concerned with athmosphere than with being "metal", that's the way I interpret it. I hope the album will open up some interesting oppurtunities, for instance that I will be able to play outside Norway, either just me, or with the duo I'm currently working with when I play concerts, called Zweizz & Homo Vinter.
07. You played live recently : what can we expect of a Zweizz show?
That's kind of an impossible question to answer. Or not really. The plan is to make every concert different from the last one, but I'm not sure how we'll deal with that in the future. The thing is, anyway, as I said above, that when I play live, I don't play as Zweizz, and I don't play the songs from the album. Zweizz live is not Zweizz, it's a duo called Homo Vinter & Zweizz, and we do some kind of performance-ish stuff. Last time we played, Homo Vinter was playing on his own customized food processors, and I was using a laptop. In addition to that I had a toilet on stage which I used as a mic stand, in the sense that I had to put my head doen into the toilet to be able to sing into the mic. But we already did that, so now I don't know. I guess we'll come up with something.
08. There's a lot of guests on "The Yawn of the New Age". Can you tell me about it, especially the collaboration with Czral?
There are a couple of guests: Czral plays some guitars on one of the songs. I had a period in 2004, some time in the summer when I was feeling quite uninspired, and I needed to do something else than just the usual sitting in front of the computer that I'd been doing for years. So i brought my laptop down to Czral's appartment, and just had him jam something. It was all kinda dull and uninspiring, the whole episode, but when I came home and listened to it, I found some stuff i liked, and I used it on one song.
09. What can we expect for the future with Zweizz? I read something about an Abigor featuring, Joey Hopkins Midget Factory, and Solefald remixes..?
Don't know how far the Abigor thing has come. Last thing I heard was that they were busy adding the finishing touches to their album. And the album is coming out next week, I think. So I assume they'll do some more work on the cooperation thing pretty soon. Regarding the cooperation with Joey Hopkins, I've been pretty slow lately. And I have been planning to spend most of my time being unemployed, which means I can spend more time making music, but suddenly I had a job offer that I didn't want to refuse. And now suddenly I fucked up my schedlule big time. But he has sent me a lot of samples that I want to work with. I made one song draft that I think sounds good, and he has made some very cool stuff as well. So we'll see how this progresses. I'm behind on the Solefald remix as well. I hope they still want it.
10. Does the collaboration with Abigor will be something more in the DHG-era of your work?
I'm not sure. I just sent some files off to the Abigor people, and they'll take care of the rest. But I don't think it's gonna sound like DHG at all. More electronic I guess. But I hope they make something completely different from anything I would have made.
11. Which artists would you collaborate with in the future?
I'm going to do a remix of Manes, and apart from that I have no specific plans.
12. What are the main influences for Zweizz?
I usually list Burzum, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Merzbow, Aphex Twin and Eric Satie as my primary influences and sources of inspiration. There are more, but this list kinda covers the most basic directions that I've been into. These names are more like representatives for musical ideals that i try to incorporate in my work.
12. Zweizz, Umoral... You're releasing a lot of stuff through Vendlus Records. Why this label?
Vendlus is the kind of label I like working with, he let's me do more or less what I want on my releases. It's also a label that lets me contribute with things i know about and how to. Also we spend a lot of time discussing things, about my releases, about the label and about other things. So we do indeed mix business and friendship. Maybe one isn't supposed to do that, but I don't care. It works for us, and I like being on a label that's more than just business. One of my main reasons for doing music is that it puts me in contact with other people. Therefore it's only logical that I work with Vendlus.
13. Ok, let's speak of Aphrodisiac. Can you tell me all we have to know about this unwell-known project? This is hard-to-find stuff, do you think it will be reedited or whatever?
No plans about anything when it comes to Aphrodisiac. It's been ten years since that band was active, and it's safe to say that nothing will ever happen with that project. I hereby officially encourage anyone who wants to make a bootleg rerelease of the Aphrodisiac album -- on vinyl, please.
14. About Umoral... What can we expect of this cold black metal project? It looks fukking killer !
This is more or less straight forward black metal. The band consists of guitarist and bassist Teloch (Nidingr, 1349), drummer Hellhammer (Mayhem and thousands of other bands) and yours truly doing the vocals. This far we've recorded one 7" ep, with two songs on it, and it will be out on Vendlus in the summer, July, I think. I've always wanted to be in a no bullshit black metal band, doing no bullshit black metal stuff. And until we formed Umoral I've only been in a lot of experimental bands, doing all kinds of experimental shit. So I guess that's the answer: Umoral is no bullshit black metal. Don't know what's happening after the 7" though. We have no specific plans for that.
15. And what about Pronounced Sex?
That is a band with Kim Sølve and me. It's actually a thing that we've been doing since 2002, so it's five years since we started. We did some recordings and stuff in 2002/2003, and after some years it's matured. So now we're looking for a label to release our music. We've made one album, it's more or less finished, and it's some kind of soft noise music. A mixture of ambient and noise. And we've received this request from a movie director called Bruce LaBruce who wanted to use our music in a gay zombie movie. So you get the general idea of what kind of atmosphere you can find in that music.
16. Ok, let's speak of DHG. What do you think of your collaborations with theses uberkult supervillains? "Satanic Art" and "666 International" traumatized everybody, and the electronic stuffs / piano parts / sound treatment are the main reasons I personally dig it.
I think those releases are very good, and I am very happy to have taken part in recording them. I remember back in 1998/99, everybody was saying that it's impossible to use synthesizers in a good way in black metal, it just sounds less grim if you use a syntesizer. So I set out to play the synthesizer on a black metal album in a way that didn't make the music any less black metal, and I think I acheived that. In my opinion "666 international" is the first black metal album in history where the syntesizer actually makes the album grimmer than it would have been without. A lot of synth players out there still think that artificial wind instruments and artificial strings is the way to go. I couldn't agree less.
17. And why aren't you on the "Supervillain Outcast"? By the way, what do you think of the new-form DHG?
The thing with DHG is that Yusaf (Vicotnik) wants to have absolute control of the band. It's kinda funny that tehy call their album "Supervillain Outcast", and I'm not sure whether the title is a deliberate description of how the band works. Most Supervillains, like Skeletor or Darth Vader or Sauron have a bunch of servants around them that answer to the supervillain's every bidding. I don't think that's a very interesting way to organise a band. It used to be ok with me when I was 20 years old, having my whole life in front of me, and when DHG was a band that rehearsed twice a year. But after a while, Yusaf wanted DHG to be a serious and professional band that rehearsed three times a week. So I said: If you want me to spend that much time on the band, I want more influence over the music. So, seeing that Yusaf still wanted to be in control about everything, I felt no reason to stay in that band. I don't want to be a sidekick.
Another thing is that I don't think that album needs a lot of effects and digital mumbo jumbo, and when I listen to the album now, I don't really think that the effects that ended up on the album sound very good. I still prefer the old rehearsal recordings. Or, not quite, since I think that the new vocalist Kvohst is very good, way better than Aldrahn in his later days.
18. What do you think of the actual musical scene, especially the black-metal affiliated one?
I think it is pretty good. I hear new and interesting bands all the time. And now that we have Myspace and all that stuff, I won't have to pay my ass of to buy stamps to stay in tough with other people in the scene. So I think it's better now than it's been in more than ten years.
19. And do you have future projects?
Most of my time these days I spend trying to finish all the projects I've started. So at the time being: No. I want to be able to start with clean slates in the autumn.
20. Well, what are you doing in life apart from music?
Writing, reading, hopefully a little bit less drinking and smoking in the future than in the last year, since that tends to make me exhausted.
21. Thanx a lot for your time Svein Egil, wish you all the best for Zweizz etc ! If you have some last words to add...
Thanks for the interview.
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